xLenchanko (August 7, 2008 at 10:33 pm)

Nope, Augie T was born in Kalihi and raised in waianae. Right now, he lived in Ewa Beach, which is still on the west side near Kapolei. Frank Delima is Hawaiian, too--he get plenty heritage--and he's from Oahu, not sure where on the island though.

hnlmkk (August 7, 2008 at 12:21 pm)

I know I grew up with the term - HONOLULU. I don't remember if my cousins on Oahu always used that term too, I thought they did or maybe now people change. But I met a person from Hilo & a guy from Kauai both at work, they said the same thing - Honolulu. None of them said Oahu. I thought Augie T was from Lanai? Frank...well, he's Portagee, don't know where he grew up, only know that he was my cousin's classmate, but my cousin wasn't raised on Oahu.

xLenchanko (August 7, 2008 at 9:34 am)

I see what you're saying, they don't very often. But I thought you were replying to people on Oahu in general. But you know, there's people like Augie T and Frank Delima that get showed, and I hardly think they're very influenced by the mainland. I did wonder why my cousins always said "We're coming to Honolulu," but I figured it was just because that was the capital.

hnlmkk (August 6, 2008 at 12:42 pm)

But just as the other islands aren't represented in the media, the north & western side of the island don't much air play. If the north is in the media, it's due to surfing. But how many true locals do they showcase? Not a whole lot. So in turn they showcase only those of the city & we get to hear their speech. Some have been in Honolulu for generations compared to those outside there, which is why we've always said "going to Honolulu" for the outer island people vs. "Oahu".

hnlmkk (August 6, 2008 at 12:39 pm)

I can understand visitors can be ignorant, b/c many of them are. But from what I've observed (only), the ones that move to Hawaii permanently are the rude ones b/c they're already accustomed to certain ways and living in the islands is so diff. compared to what they were used to, that they make these demands which is why they are rude. They want changes to accomodate them. And yes, any place away from the metropolis like Waianae side, the north side preserve their traditional speech.

xLenchanko (August 6, 2008 at 9:11 am)

I have to agree with you on one thing. Not everyone on the mainland is stupid. However, most people I've met from the mainland are rude, especially when they come to Hawai'i. But, they don't influence us. Not as much as you would think. I'd say, maybe if you lived in Waikiki, or certain parts of the island, you would be. But there's places like the west and the north side of the island that don't exaggerate their pidgin. I just think it's rude how everyone downs Oahu because of the tourist.

hnlmkk (August 1, 2008 at 4:19 pm)

Also, you say that it was rude, but I wasn't meaning to be rude but pointing out that Oahuans are very oahucentric & everything evolves around them. I'm sure you'll understand this in a couple of more decades. And to me, what is rude is you commenting about mainlanders being "stupid". In reality, they're no different than you, being clueless about the surroundings, and that's ur situation unfortunately.

hnlmkk (August 1, 2008 at 4:11 pm)

(cont) Even people from the city will notice these differences. Regardless of what ur cousins from Kauai & Maui think, those r the facts that due to these changes, the creole that we all speak aren't the same. And try not to read into these. Oahu is populated, yes. So is Maui. You do realize what these do to the people & lifestyle, right?

hnlmkk (August 1, 2008 at 4:11 pm)

I already explained, b/c of the constant influx of people, the creole on oahu changes & consistently. Unlike the other islands where it's more isolated, less inundated by outsiders, the creole there remains the same, almost untouched. (cont)

xLenchanko (August 1, 2008 at 1:00 pm)

I know you were talking about pidgin. Why does the other islands take offense to us on oahu just because we're so populated? Everyone from the other islands always think that we're exaggerating our pidgin. I think it's rude. Even my cousins from Kauai and Maui think it's rude what the other islands say about us. Maui is getting populated, too. What? Then you guys just going to say the same thing about them, yeah? "They're exagerating their pidgin cause mainland stay taking over them."