anice1834lyf (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Jazakallah Khair brother. Just one question, about the war, if an enemy combatant wants peace, you have to take him to a secure area, etc. So what if "peace" is just an excuse for the soldier not to get his head blown off? This isn't a joke, I was thinking about it and like enemies could take a big advantage of this AYA FROM THE QURAN AL KAREEM by falsely promoting peace. So what would you do in this case, set them free?

RammatRamzi (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

I'm sure there are other verses that say that about pagans, like the "no compulsion" one. But, aren't they "abrogated" by Quran 9? ou know what "abrogated" means, true? By the way, you say I'm just reading a part of the verse. If so, how come Quran 9:1 was skipped in this video (about freedom of obligation when it concerns treaties with pagans), and, there was no mention of Quran 9:29 which seems to be a clear threat to even those who believe in the Bible, the "people of the book"?

eviilhomerr (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

But other verses in the Qur'an say if the pagans want peace you must incline to it... And yes you do need years of teaching to understand what the Qur'an means, which is not the intention of this video. It's intended to show the full verse in English. There is a difference between reading a full verse and not just part of it, and understanding the full verse.

RammatRamzi (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

I did. And it left out Quran 9:1 about Muslims having "freedom of obligation" from treaties with pagans. Also, it made no mention of Quran 9:29 that seems to greatly contradict not only the "no compulsion" part of this video, but contradicts "to you your religion, to me, mine". By the way, the passage it DOES show in this video mirrors the disturbing three English versions of the Quran I'm familiar with, taking away the Muslim saying that one needs years of Arabic to underSTAND the meaning.

eviilhomerr (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Maybe you didn't watch the video

RammatRamzi (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Whenever I bring up the scary peace treaty breaking, pagan killing Quran 9:1-5, or the Christian killing and subduing Quran 9:29, Muslims tell me it's not the way it sounds. When I ask them for how the original Arabic would make it sound, they pretty much quote it the way the three English versions of the Quran make them sound.

eviilhomerr (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Muhammad al Luhaidan

DonutEatingMachine (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Hey bro Who is the reciter? he has a nice voice lol

knowitx (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

If you notice, it is fake Muslims who also preach the lies. It seems that a huge number of 'Muslim' leaders are NOT Muslim, but of Rome, Riyad, or somewhere, or some form of agitators.Also many of these so called Christian converts from Islam, seem to want to validate the lies about Islam as preached by the other 'terror' oriented crowd.Someone had made mention that the Islamic leaders in the middle east,were mostly not from the middle east, or Muslims, but British Intel agents and provocateurs.

iprotecttheinnocent (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Very well done brother mashallah one of the clearest presentations of clarity i have seen ...i was thinking of creating such a presentation but i will but ddirect others to your one. 5 stars... peace be upon you