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AnarcisticJoy (October 14, 2008 at 9:04 am)
"Natural Laws did not exist before the bang" your learning something. I'm so happy but thats a bit wrong. It's our CURRENT laws that don't work as it was a singularity. which is why work is done into understanding black holes, they are singularities aswell. So if we succeed in that field then maybe we will be able to find laws which would allow the spontaneous creation of a universe.
As for quantum theory its very cool and impossible to understand. i don't know why they don't pick on it.
AnarcisticJoy (October 14, 2008 at 8:53 am)
"If you expect sympathy from atheists for calling your religion a pathetic, ridiculous pile of shit, I think you'll be sorely disappointed."
I know a great deal of atheists and they are nothing like you, their view is that religions can cause a great deal of trouble. but people like UNFF aren't and if anything they are helping spread science and education so why bother them.
AnarcisticJoy (October 14, 2008 at 8:48 am)
I have to agree please shutup. Or critisize the religion with criticisms rather than insult ripped from HTBK's vocabulary. Put forward an argument with less characters wasted on words like "withdoctor superstition" "ridiculous" "primitive idol" and honestly, "poop-desecration"
seanmPWH (October 14, 2008 at 6:25 am)
Associating evolution with gravity is typical Miller deception. The theory of Intelligent Design is a legitimate field of study. Why single out ID for exclusion? Miller has no problem with false information, he lied about Hawaiian butterflies, he said they had developed new mouth parts, but there are no new mouth parts, all butterflies eat the same way. Voters have been brainwashed by the Godless school system. Political bullying does not = reasoning. There's no such thing as natural causes.
LiquidNsolidus (October 14, 2008 at 4:57 am)
Heck ,i f anyone lives out the moral teachings of the bible ,its theistic evolutionists like donexodus,not the fundamentalists who mock him for his tolerance towards homosexuals and other religions\ agnosticism\atheism
LiquidNsolidus (October 14, 2008 at 4:52 am)
Total agreement brospec.I m somewhere between strong and weak atheism but am friends with several theistic evolutionists and it totally pisses me off when I go to donexodus channel and see people insulting him.
brospec (October 14, 2008 at 3:25 am)
I should clarify that the probable majority of theistic evolutionists (myself included) have no problem with accepting the (not yet fully developed) theory of abiogenesis.
....and it is grossly offensive , that creationists often claim theistic evolutionists (especially Catholics) are not true Christians....as if its a private club based on scientific ignorance, bereft of reason
UNFFwildcard (October 14, 2008 at 3:16 am)
"Theistic evolutionists will disagree with you. They will say that God created the first living cell and left it to evolve."
I should clarify that the probable majority of theistic evolutionists (myself included) have no problem with accepting the (not yet fully developed) theory of abiogenesis.
Perhaps the issue is that if the Big Bang occured, then there must be some mechanism for creating replicating molecules, then life in turn. So, for creationists, it's a package deal.
UNFFwildcard (October 14, 2008 at 3:12 am)
"What happens elements that disobey god by now behaving as instructed? Do they go to a special chemical hell.......like Newark? "
"HTBK is resting now, hanging from the ceiling, upside down, with his wings wrapped around him. He asked me to give the creation science answer : its all due to micro evolution, but on a macro scale :) "
Lmao x 2
brospec (October 14, 2008 at 3:02 am)
"I like the notion that information is encoded some how so that the elements behave as instructed"
What happens elements that disobey god by now behaving as instructed? Do they go to a special chemical hell.......like Newark? |